Python?

Subject: Python? Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:56 pm

I use to lug around buckets of water until 6 months ago when I purchase a Python. It's a 25" hose that hooks up to the tap and when the water is on it draws water from your tank by creating a vacuum. When you are ready to add water to your tank you close the valve and the water now flow from the tap to your tank. All you have to do is add water conditioner to your tank first and make sure the water from the tap is the same temp as the tank water. This thing is great and I recommend it to anyone that has a large tank or more than one tank it makes water changes effortless.
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Subject: Re: Python? Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:18 pm

I have seen these, and I am thinking about getting one. Only thing is, is that it might not live through my tank full of Darios!
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Subject: Re: Python? Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:45 am

I've been meaning to get one of these for a long time. I hate doing water changes on my 100 gallon tank.

Subject: python Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:41 pm

Back with the two tanks with two fancy goldfish in each I had a bathroom on the other side of the wall from them and had such a thing like the Python for maintenance. It worked really nice.

I had system that I have seen a "Betta Lady" (google her) use with a 25%one week 50% next week 75% next week water changes. I had the old style corner filters and "Slim Jim" filters and a large cannister filter that these two tanks shared. Lots of anacris plants.

All of this maintenance was a joy and the fish just thrived.

Subject: Re: Python? Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:36 pm

yeah... i'm not about putting back 30-50 gallons of chlorine and chloramine treated water into my tank during a water change...

the way i do my waterchanges is with a 55g rubbermaid container in front of my tank... fill it up... treat with prime, salt, whatever depending on what tank it's going to... then dump it in with a power head and a hose... unless your water comes directly from a well or a mountain top, i wouldn't want to let my fishh get in contact with untreated water... that's fail and aids brothers...

but... i like the way the python dumps the dirty water into the sink... but i piped my house with drains near all my tanks...

yes...

i'm insane...

Subject: Re: Python? Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:00 pm

I buy a 2L (2.5gt) of Aqua plus conditioner, and put 3x the amount to treat the water that is going into my tank. The conditioner has a pump, say 1 pump treats 5 gallons, I use 3, I have never had any bad reaction from my fish or water parameters from using my python. That was one of my concerns when I first bought it.
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Subject: Re: Python? Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:48 pm

i know about over dechlorinating the tank water before putting the new water in... but the thing is that 15g of water dechlorinates faster than 50g of water... or even more...

when i do my pond water changes it takes me 3 days to dechlorinate 9,000 gallons of water... i do 3,000 at a time... plus i have a chlorine tester... and i don't like taking chances with any of my fish... so before putting back any water in a pond/tank i test it...

the python refill method just sounds like problems and fail/aids...

Subject: Re: Python? Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:10 pm

Ya, I wasn't thinking of water changes that large, wow that is a lot of water and trying to over dechlorinate that much water, would cost a lot of money. I know several people that use the pythons,
But not for anything that large. A couple of them have fish rooms with 15 to 25 tank of various size, but the rest just have 20 gallon to maybe 100 gallon tanks. I can definitely see what you are saying about the quantity of water and the size of the water change making a difference.
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Subject: Re: Python? Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:46 pm

It doesnt make sense that it would take longer to dechlorinate 6,000 gallons than 6 gallons. You have to add 1,000 times more conditioner, but it should take exactly the same amount of time. I like your avatar Gumbii. It's original, and it looks tasty too. Having a reservoir for pre fill for the tanks seems like a great idea though.

Subject: Re: Python? Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:47 pm

part of the dechlor process is the evaporation of chlorines... that's why it sometimes gives off a amonnia smell and that's the odor of the chlorine evaporating...

so 3 inches of water will declor faster than 36 inches of water...

and i do have a resourvour to do pond waterchanges... that's why i fill it up in the night, dechlor and let the sun warm it up and take care of the rest of the chlorine that i may have missed... or sometimes i wont add dechlor to the end... the sun gets rid of all of the chlorine itself...

Subject: Re: Python? Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:40 pm

I thought dechlorinators was purely a chemical reaction thing. I heard way back in the day when they didn't use chloramines you could just let the tap water sit with an open top and it would all evaporate out, but the other chlorine like chemicals don't do this and that is why they add them to water. Municipal water suppliers want the water to stay able to kill bacteria. I thought the conditioners we use didn't require evaporation of the chlorine or related compounds.