The Rant Thread!!!

Subject: The Rant Thread!!! Mon May 26, 2008 5:27 pm

After reading some of the posts I decided we need to rant on about anything and everything. Just remember no raciest, explicit sexual or hurtful comments are to be made. Coarse language is to be kept to minimal amount and please do not use any company names or other forum name. Other than that Rant away!!

WARNING: This thread may offend some people and may not be appropriate for everyone.

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Mon May 26, 2008 8:40 pm

I could go on for ever, with the last couple of days events going on. With the total losse of hard work and devotion i put into my fish. Not all my tanks hard good lookn setups but i was at the point that nothing whent wrong and smooth sailing ahead. But with all that aside what i really want to rant about is these tiny little guppy lookn Killi fish. I new them as a totaly differnt name. I wanted them but could not find the right books with the info. But a few days ago i happend to ltype in the name killi fish, somthing i have been hear about all over the net. When , and to my surprise there pops up the Guenther's Notho i was totally surprised ( not noticing the name yet) i was reading the info jotting down notes ( i keep not on everything from how many times i stuck my hands in a tank and what tank and fish acting funny to how much and fast they ate, even breeding scehduals) and kept seeing Killifish then realized and put two and two togeether. I am now decided that i am going to try and breed thes and see what i can do .......BUT!! the dumb corn poking anal rete3ntive dumb ass's that work at the locale pet stores can't figure out how to pick up a phone and order these fish from UMMMMMMMMMMMM??? oh ya suplyiers and i don't have the meens of travel safe enough to transport some. I have called like 8 or 9 times a day for the last 4 days and still they either get the name wrong or think its for salt wateror what not and they just don't order them. I want i want iwant those mother F'n ASS KICKN FISH-I WANT THEM....
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Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Tue May 27, 2008 4:55 pm

You have had some bad shit happen to you, to bad there are such ignorant asses out there that have no respect for others and just figure they can do what they please. Check the Hamilton & District Aquarium Society site or kitchener-Waterloo's site for people that can point you in the right direction to getting those fish.
Also try Brantford site, a lot of these sites have contact info you could send them an email asking if they know of anyone. If you have a local aquarium club in your area they may also be able to help you.
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Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Tue May 27, 2008 5:37 pm

i might have found a breeder that has some fresh water Killi fish but i would have to get to British Columbia and then transport them back myself. I don't have the meens or time to drive there and back my car barely makes it around town let alone tryn to do any kind of longdistance trip, hell going to the store is sometimes to far for the P.O.S. A another thing is how much are they worth? He wanted $300 for 2 males and 4 females, is that to much. I have paid alot for fish just to find out that i could of got them for alot more cheaper than i did.
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Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Tue May 27, 2008 7:10 pm

you waht really eats me? having to choose from a selection of ish when you want them all. I found that there is so many differnt types of killi fish that selecting one is probally going to have to be the ones that a pet store order or someone that breeds them will ship me. the list goes List of known species
Adamas formosus
Adinia xenica
Aphanius anatoliae anatoliae
Aphanius anatoliae splendens
Aphanius anatoliae sureyanus
Aphanius apodus
Aphanius asquamatus
Aphanius baeticus
Aphanius danfordii
Aphanius dispar dispar
Aphanius dispar richardsoni
Aphanius fasciatus
Aphanius ginaonis
Aphanius iberus
Aphanius isfahanensis
Aphanius mento
Aphanius persicus
Aphanius saourensis
Aphanius sirhani
Aphanius sophiae
Aphanius stiassnyae
Aphanius thermarum
Aphanius transgrediens
Aphanius villwocki
Aphanius vladykovi
Aphyolebias obliquus
Aphyolebias peruensis
Aphyolebias rubrocaudatus
Aphyolebias wischmanni
Aphyosemion abacinum
Aphyosemion ahli
Aphyosemion alpha
Aphyosemion amoenum
Aphyosemion aureum
Aphyosemion australe
Aphyosemion bamilekorum
Aphyosemion batesii
Aphyosemion bitaeniatum
Aphyosemion bivittatum
Aphyosemion bochtleri
Aphyosemion boehmi
Aphyosemion bualanum
Aphyosemion buytaerti
Aphyosemion calliurum
Aphyosemion cameronense
Aphyosemion castaneum
Aphyosemion caudofasciatum
Aphyosemion celiae celiae
Aphyosemion celiae winifredae
Aphyosemion chauchei
Aphyosemion christyi
Aphyosemion citrineipinnis
Aphyosemion coeleste
Aphyosemion cognatum
Aphyosemion congicum
Aphyosemion cyanostictum
Aphyosemion dargei
Aphyosemion decorsei
Aphyosemion edeanum
Aphyosemion elberti elberti
Aphyosemion elegans
Aphyosemion escherichi
Aphyosemion exigoideum
Aphyosemion exiguum
Aphyosemion ferranti
Aphyosemion franzwerneri
Aphyosemion fulgens
Aphyosemion gabunense
Aphyosemion georgiae
Aphyosemion haasi
Aphyosemion halleri
Aphyosemion hanneloreae hanneloreae
Aphyosemion hanneloreae wuendschi
Aphyosemion heinemanni
Aphyosemion hera
Aphyosemion herzogi
Aphyosemion hofmanni
Aphyosemion joergenscheeli
Aphyosemion kekemense
Aphyosemion kouamense
Aphyosemion labarrei
Aphyosemion lamberti
Aphyosemion lefiniense
Aphyosemion loennbergii
Aphyosemion louessense
Aphyosemion lugens
Aphyosemion lujae
Aphyosemion maculatum
Aphyosemion margaretae
Aphyosemion marginatum
Aphyosemion meinkeni
Aphyosemion mimbon
Aphyosemion obscurum
Aphyosemion ocellatum
Aphyosemion ogoense
Aphyosemion ottogartneri
Aphyosemion pascheni festivum
Aphyosemion pascheni pascheni
Aphyosemion passaroi
Aphyosemion poliaki
Aphyosemion polli
Aphyosemion primigenium
Aphyosemion punctatum
Aphyosemion pyrophore
Aphyosemion raddai
Aphyosemion rectogoense
Aphyosemion riggenbachi
Aphyosemion schioetzi
Aphyosemion schluppi
Aphyosemion seegersi
Aphyosemion sp. Malinga
Aphyosemion sp. Oyo
Aphyosemion splendopleure
Aphyosemion striatum
Aphyosemion thysi
Aphyosemion tirbaki
Aphyosemion trilineatum
Aphyosemion volcanum
Aphyosemion wachtersi mikeae
Aphyosemion wachtersi wachtersi
Aphyosemion wildekampi
Aphyosemion zygaima
Aplocheilicthys spilauchen
Aplocheilus blockii
Aplocheilus dayi dayi
Aplocheilus dayi werneri
Aplocheilus kirschmeyeri
Aplocheilus lineatus
Aplocheilus panchax panchax
Aplocheilus parvus
Aplocheilus rubropunctatus
Archiaphyosemion guineense
Archiaphyosemion jeanpoli
Archiaphyosemion maeseni
Archiaphyosemion petersi
Archiaphyosemion viride
Austrofundulus guajira
Austrofundulus limnaeus
Austrofundulus myersi
Austrofundulus transilis
Austrolebias adloffi
Austrolebias affinis
Austrolebias alexandri
Austrolebias apaii
Austrolebias bellottii
Austrolebias carvalhoi
Austrolebias charrua
Austrolebias cinereus
Austrolebias cyaneus
Austrolebias cyaneus
Austrolebias duraznensis
Austrolebias gymnoventris
Austrolebias ibicuiensis
Austrolebias jaegari
Austrolebias juanlangi
Austrolebias litzi
Austrolebias luteoflammulatus
Austrolebias melanoorus
Austrolebias minuano
Austrolebias nachtigalli
Austrolebias nigripinnis
Austrolebias nigrofasciatus
Austrolebias nioni
Austrolebias nonoiuliensis
Austrolebias paranaensis
Austrolebias patriciae
Austrolebias periodicus
Austrolebias Robustus
Austrolebias salviai
Austrolebias toba
Austrolebias vandenbergi
Austrolebias vazferreirai
Austrolebias viarius
Callopanchax huwaldi
Callopanchax monroviae
Callopanchax occidentalis
Callopanchax toddi
Campellolebias brucei
Campellolebias chrysolineatus
Campellolebias dorsimaculatus
Campellolebias intermedius
Crenichthys baileyi albivallis
Crenichthys baileyi baileyi
Crenichthys baileyi grandis
Crenichthys baileyi moapae
Crenichthys baileyi thermophilus
Crenichthys nevadae
Cualac tessellatus
Cubanichthys cubensis
Cubanichthys pengelleyi
Cynolebias albipunctatus
Cynolebias attenuatus
Cynolebias gibbus
Cynolebias gilbertoi
Cynolebias griseus
Cynolebias itapicuruensis
Cynolebias leptocephalus
Cynolebias microphthalmus
Cynolebias perforatus
Cynolebias porosus
Cynolebias vazabarrisensis
Cynopoecilus fulgens
Cynopoecilus intimus
Cynopoecilus melanotaenia
Cynopoecilus multipapillatus
Cynopoecilus nigrovittatus
Cyprinodon albivelis
Cyprinodon alvarezi
Cyprinodon arcuatus
Cyprinodon artifrons
Cyprinodon atrorus
Cyprinodon beltrani
Cyprinodon bifasciatus
Cyprinodon bobmilleri
Cyprinodon bondi
Cyprinodon bovinus
Cyprinodon ceciliae
Cyprinodon dearborni
Cyprinodon diabolis
Cyprinodon elegans
Cyprinodon eremus
Cyprinodon esconditus
Cyprinodon eximius
Cyprinodon fontinalis
Cyprinodon higuey
Cyprinodon hubbsi
Cyprinodon inmemoriam
Cyprinodon labiosus
Cyprinodon laciniatus
Cyprinodon latifasciatus
Cyprinodon longidorsalis
Cyprinodon macrolepis
Cyprinodon macularius
Cyprinodon maya
Cyprinodon meeki
Cyprinodon nazas
Cyprinodon nevadensis amargosae
Cyprinodon nevadensis calidae
Cyprinodon nevadensis mionectes
Cyprinodon nevadensis nevadensis
Cyprinodon nevadensis pectoralis
Cyprinodon nevadensis shoshone
Cyprinodon nichollsi
Cyprinodon pachycephalus
Cyprinodon pecosensis
Cyprinodon pisteri
Cyprinodon radiosus
Cyprinodon rubrofluviatilis
Cyprinodon salinus milleri
Cyprinodon salinus salinus
Cyprinodon simus
Cyprinodon tularosa
Cyprinodon variegatus baconi
Cyprinodon variegatus ovinus
Cyprinodon variegatus riverendi
Cyprinodon variegatus variegatus
Cyprinodon verecundus
Cyprinodon veronicae
Empetrichthys latos concavus
Empetrichthys latos latos
Empetrichthys latos pahrump
Empetrichthys merriami
Epiplatys ansorgii
Epiplatys azureus
Epiplatys barmoiensis
Epiplatys berkenkampi
Epiplatys biafranus
Epiplatys bifasciatus bifasciatus
Epiplatys bifasciatus taeniatus
Epiplatys chaperi chaperi
Epiplatys chaperi samborskii
Epiplatys chaperi schreiberi
Epiplatys chaperi sheljuzhkoi
Epiplatys chaperi spillmanni
Epiplatys chevalieri chevalieri
Epiplatys chevalieri nigricans
Epiplatys coccinatus
Epiplatys dageti dageti
Epiplatys dageti monroviae
Epiplatys duboisi
Epiplatys esekanus
Epiplatys etzeli
Epiplatys fasciolatus fasciolatus
Epiplatys fasciolatus puetzi
Epiplatys fasciolatus tototaensis
Epiplatys fasciolatus zimiensis
Epiplatys grahami
Epiplatys guineensis
Epiplatys hildegardae
Epiplatys huberi
Epiplatys Infrafasciatus zenkeri
Epiplatys josianae
Epiplatys lacazei
Epiplatys lamottei
Epiplatys longiventralis
Epiplatys mesogramma
Epiplatys multifasciatus
Epiplatys neumanni
Epiplatys njalaensis
Epiplatys olbrechtsi dauresi
Epiplatys olbrechtsi kassiapleuensis
Epiplatys olbrechtsi olbrechtsi
Epiplatys phoeniceps
Epiplatys roloffi
Epiplatys ruhkopfi
Epiplatys sangmelinensis
Epiplatys sexfasciatus infrafasciatus
Epiplatys sexfasciatus sexfasciatus
Epiplatys sexfasciatus togolensis
Epiplatys singa
Epiplatys spilargyreius
Episemion callipteron
Episemion krystallinoron
Floridichthys carpio
now how do you choose just one type? and this list is only a third of the hole list. I couldn't put all of them on the meesage would have been to big to post
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Subject: killies Tue May 27, 2008 7:38 pm

That price is 'cause somebody is breeding in controlled conditions and you would do the same to cover the money output.

Is there any scope that you could get your own wild type? Drive south or NE or whatever, 'til you get to an old canal and fish on a regular basis. It will not be long 'for the mosquito larva are hangin' there and the fish are at it. (Any fast moving water will be full of Dace.)

Killies are worth looking for. Please check it out with the bait net and some research at the historical society for old canals (at least a little bit, get a map), before you spend that kind of money to somebody taking advantage like that.

Myself and other old "Dads" have got little fishys (and snakes and frogs etc)of ALL sorts and kept them for a week before dumping them back in the creeks. Make it a quest.

The guy that can find and keep killies as aquarium specimens, now that is the admirable aquarist.

Dig deeper do some homework (you still got the computer and local rseources) before driving anywhere. Then go like hell, and chill out, please for your own sake. Believe me you'll love it Exclamation

(Don't hurt yourself 'cause i said so)

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Tue May 27, 2008 8:17 pm

oh i'm not rushing into buying any lillis yet i still have to get a tank and setup going. I just want to know where i can forsure get them. As for catching my own killies, that would be a big accomplishment but do to a hip injury foot travel isn't so easy for me plus i would rather have a captive bred pair so that stress levels for the fish will be lower so they acumilate to the tank better and are more willing to breed. Wild caught lillies will in most part have been stable one the food source that is present in they're habitat , which i might not be able to give them. Also for health reasons and life expectancy i would rather have captive over wild caught. As for breeding i can set my goal towards differnt colors and patterns even finage, as i was doing with the fancy taild guppys and maybe even i could breed them to get albinos?
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Subject: killies Thu May 29, 2008 7:19 pm

First off, that's an awesome list to work off. I can use that nice.

Second, I see your reasons good, too. New to captive always freak for a while (like the time we put a two inch bullhead in a tank and it broke the tank, oops). Let alone become good breed stock soon.

Food size and type and strata in tank with waterflow is not that hard to get right. Don't let that inhibit you. Play with that right along, but not with million dollar fishys. They ate mosquito larvae for a long time before the fish tank was invented. Now its a reconstituted what?

I'm still looking for a good stone mortar and pestal to get my own fish food right for some of these fish.

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Thu May 29, 2008 11:22 pm

the memorial day curse strikes again...

okay...

two memorial days ago my huge golden female pit bull "Bubbles" died near memorial day... shit it was horrible... i still mis her today... but oh well... it happened right..?

last memorial day i took of for the weekend and when i came back my 60G lake tanganyika tank took a crap... everything died... OMG i had a breeding colony of tropheus moorii "moliro" sp. black... another huge breeding colony of pseudotropheus demasoni... a breeder colony of synodontis petricola and synodontis multipictactus... and some deepwater haps... anyways... i had some bad ass fish in there... and WTF happened... yup... they all died... when i came home, the room smelled like dead frogs... seriously... the water was like milk... the filters and everything gave out all at once... what a string of bad luck... it had two penguin 350's and a undergravel jet system going on... wow i couldn't believe what happened...

and what happened this memorial day... a rack full of snakes died on me... i don't get it... i guess one of the kids sprayed air freshener, or soap into the rack and killed them all... 10 culubrids snakes gone to hell... and they were all expensive snakes... shit... i can't believe it... now i have an empty rack... OMG i can't stand it... i don't know what's worst... knowing that the snakes died, or having an empty snake rack... damnit... i need MOAR snakes NOW!!!!...

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i'm going to my back yard and going to unload a couple of clips into the ground... i also feel like stabbing someone... hmm... sounds like a plan... but i don't want to go back in jail... lol...

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:41 am

One of these days you have to post some pics of your place it sounds like a friggen zoo.
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Subject: If: killies Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:54 pm

You really spurred my interest in these little mosquito fishys here.

If we all get really into breeding killies and put them out their like crazy in our ponds and ditches...Then West Nile Virus doesn't stand a chance.

My local vendor breeds his own gouramii in hand dug pools and such June to Sept. weather permitting. Laborynth can be good like that too.

Yeah thats my version of rant even though I'm being dumped on at work to the point where I don't care.
Seems like a good point to be to me.
I'm confident that no matter what, I'm kickin' butt building this summer.

Redesigning my 4'x8' garden with my daughter today. Its lookin' good so far.

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:48 pm

Heres my rant, in the city I live in we have a group of people that are so called protesting, but in fact they are in areas of our city that are under development and using intimidation to hold up work on these sites. This group will allow the work to continue as long as the developers pay some fees, in other words extortion, but they claim there reasons for protesting has nothing to do with money. It's a joke anyone else tried that shit they would be locked up for it, but not this group. The police will not even remove them from these areas. These developments are going to create jobs for a lot of people and I already know someone that this has effected. I can see it getting very nasty before this ends. It will not take long for an Innocent person to get hurt due to the anger that people loosing there income will have toward the situation and certain people.

This group must be paying to have people show up at these so called protests, or they are collecting welfare that our tax dollars pay for, because I know I can't afford to take that much time off work or even blockade a site for days with no income. These people have even destroyed roads and other infrastructure in out laying towns also costing use tax payers money. I think when you start to destroy road or anything else whether you use a bomb or a tractor to intimidate or hold a town hostage, or even use extortion and intimidation to try and achieve you goal you should be classed as a terrorist arrested and thrown in prison. There I have gotten it out and I'm still pissed about it, but for now thats all I can do.

I'm sure Canadian members know of what I'm talking about in this post and will notice that I have gone out of my way to name no groups at all. I'm sure there may be some opposition to my post and that is OK, just remember to name no one.
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Subject: the development protesters Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:54 pm

There is always going to be some governmental branch that with be so dependent on the money from fines, that they would even fine themselves; if only to make a point, and save face.

You just have to find the right one to call, or write the letter. The letter to the editor is there, too.

Hered in ameridca,"USA", teh buracracy is so thick that there is ALWAYS someone that will stand aloof of the police, "protesters", developers, etc.. to totally take a step to end the scuttle-butt bad scene by demanding more money and be backed by a court without question.

Hope this can help. Neutral

(I think there's hope yet.)

After all; You can see that that's some Carassius poopy. Why can't a couple thousand others.

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:36 pm

The problem with the group that we are having problems with, is that everyone is scared to stop them, they are afraid that it will turn violent if they try and it has in the past. We have a lot of bureaucracy, not as much as you do in the states, but thats not the problem, it's the damn candy ass, we are so peaceful do gooders in our government that is the problem.
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Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:47 am

i work as as a cashier in a major chain retail store that sells clothing household appliances etcetera. After going thru fathers days recently i have a question for everyone.

Why do people wait tell the last minute to shop for gifts and why do they not get gift receipts let alone keep the original receipt in case something is wrong with the item they just bought??!!!???!!

I mean for crying out loud very few stores let you return anything without a receipt. Unfortunately we do with but without a receipt how are we to know what you paid for the item which is why we return at the last or current sale price onto a giftcard. Why do people feel the need to argue with this dang it.

bad day with returns at work obviously, sorry guys but needed to get that out.

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:49 pm

people are stupid... there are way too many mouth breathers out there... and the bad thing is those are the ones that keep breeding...

Subject: reciepts Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:34 am

Because people are wild in their spending and put it on credit cards and then get paranoid of ID theft and shred the reciepts, or was over confident in the first place and think they got themselves covered for their gift 'cause they spent money they didn't have in the first place, etc... like GUMBI said "stupid".

If they could work together with eachother where one stupid brain could work with a few others they could plan ahead a bit and budget and schedule and mind their reciepts and make better choices and all that stuff. IMHO

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:55 am

Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:59 am

Well like me you all must be on holidays or working really hard. Summer months are slow months for small forums such as this, but check in once in a while, let us know whats going on.

WORK & PLAY SAFE everyone!!
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Subject: Re: The Rant Thread!!! Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:12 pm

I have been trying to get some Killifish now for about 2 months. Time after time i think i finally can get some but somthing stops it, like there is a ton of people i can get Killi's from that live in the U.S. but get get them due to some type of bane that the canadian goverment put in affect the dosn't allow fish to be mailed acroos the border. You have to have a permit to do so. Also you have to have a store owner to get this permit. I could gets some Killi's from around here but they are not the ones i want.What really makes me mad is that the canadian government lets the U.S. ship they'er trash over the border to be dump in my backyard, but won't allow a fish that is not no bigger then a french fry across. To drive to the states and bring them back is not ollowd either. The fish will be confiscated at the border and you could get a fine.( i know i just tryed and the fine is for the import and export of controlled goods $250). So being so close and then have it a taking again really made me mad( so on top of the $250 add $200 for speeding) Oh ya plus you loose you passport for this too. So now i can't enter the states.All this over 6 fish 4 males 2 females i payed close to a $100 for. What is wrong with people if they have to bane fish but allow trash to cross the border?
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